Denialist Agenda (Part 3): Think tanks, oil money and black ops

5 thoughts on “Denialist Agenda (Part 3): Think tanks, oil money and black ops”

  1. The curious thing about the responses to this piece on Unleashed was the complete denialism (to use a word from a different context) involved. The obvious response to Clive’s factual, and matter of fact, account of think tanks and right wing columnists would be to say “That’s right, we believe Australia should be run by neoconservatives, for corporations. Greenies should get out of the way. No way we are going to let a little thing like a warming planet get in the way of corporations getting bigger and wealthier and the rich getting richer. And if I keep helping Andrew Bolt hold back the tide of environmentalism then one day the big corporations will take care of me and I’ll be rich too. Nyah. Nyah.” I mean, that would be honest – loud and proud (again, context).

    Instead they claimed Clive was a conspiracy theorist, that he was crazy, should be disowned by environmentalists, absolutely nothing was going on. Which must come as a source of some surprise for the right wing think tanks, the shock jocks and jockettes, and the energy companies, who not only make no secret of what they are doing but are proud that they are helping keep back the green hordes who want to stop corporation profits reaching the trillions.

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  2. Here Clive goes again, the same tired rant against The Heartland Institute and other organizations whose position is not to deny climate change, as Clive wants his readers to believe, but that climate change is occurring, always has occurred, and is natural, moderate, and likely to be beneficial.

    If funding drives an organization’s position on this issue, surely Heartland and other “skeptical” organizations would be raving global warming alarmists by now, since that’s clearly where the money is. As <a href="http://www.creators.com/liberal/alexander-cockburn/from-nicaea-to-copenhagen.html"Alexander Cockburn has noted, “Billions in funding and research grants sluice into the big climate-modeling enterprises and a vast archipelago of research departments and ‘institutes of climate change’ across academia. It’s where the money is.”

    Give it a rest, Clive. If this is all you’ve got, you should find another horse to beat.

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  3. That wouldn’t make any sense given the funding that the Heartland Institute is a front for big oil interests. For example, contributions from Exxon Mobil include:

    $30,000 in 1998;
    $115,000 in 2000;
    $90,000 in 2001;
    $15,000 in 2002;
    $85,000 for General Operating Support and $7,500 for their 19th Anniversary Benefit Dinner in 2003;
    $85,000 for General Operating Support and $15,000 for Climate Change Efforts in 2004; and
    $119,000 in 2005; and
    $115,000 in 2006.

    Check it out for yourself. http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Heartland_Institute

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  4. but that climate change is occurring, always has occurred

    Pro AGW scientists dont dispute that the climate has always changed. That statement is just an over simplification. What they are saying now is, that the rate of change is faster than previously found & its because of a variety of actions of mankind that are causing the globe to warm faster than it would normally.

    Scientists are not trying to make out that the rise in Co2 will suddenly render earth like Mars in “total recall” where our eyes will pop out of our head & we all choke. The Holocene period has ensured a very stable climate on earth where we humans have been able to thrive. Especially in low lying regions & coastal zones. If we artificially change that stable environment, we risk population movement due to flooding & lack of resources, namely food & water.

    For some of these concerns, check out this document from a U.S military advisory board to George Bush in 2007 on their national security fears.

    http://securityandclimate.cna.org/report/National%20Security%20and%20the%20Threat%20of%20Climate%20Change.pdf

    and likely to be beneficial.,/blockquote>

    Maybe to plants, but not humans. Also, not all crops benefit from higher Co2, on top of the fact that plants also need another essentially ingredient……water.

    If funding drives an organization’s position on this issue, surely Heartland and other “skeptical” organizations would be raving global warming alarmists by now, since that’s clearly where the money is

    How do you figure? Money spent by governments on grants, satelites instrumentation etc is for the purpose of conducting science. Whereas Heartland is paid to lobby politicians on behalf of industry & basically act as a front group to put pressure on politicians & convince the public of pro industry positions, which have nothing to do with science & its entirely political. Last time I checked, the Heartland Institute is not a scientific organization.

    Heartland, Cato, IPA, Lavoisier, APCO, Freedom works,Competitive Enterprise Institute,Frontiers of Freedom, The Heritage Foundation,AEI,The Marshall Institute, The Fraser Institute & many more are lobby groups. They dont conduct science & they certainly dont publish any scientific papers. They are front groups, pr & lobbyist groups.

    Like Carter, Plimer, Ball, Christy, Michaels, Monckton, Lomborg who tour the world trying to convince people of the science…..where is their papers refuting it?

    Give it a rest, Clive. If this is all you’ve got, you should find another horse to beat.

    Its encouraging to see people like Clive with his gloves off approach. Thumbs up Clive, we need more of you.

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  5. Failure to take these ‘climate creationists’ seriously has already put the world’s ecosystems in unprecedented danger. Thanks to Clive for alerting us to their tactics. How much more delay can we afford? Had we acted when prudence demanded,(about15 years ago) we would be well on the way to a relatively painless transition to a post ‘fossil fool’ world. As it is we have allowed ourselves to get into a serious fight just to allow the proper science to continue without being sabotaged by the screaming mob.

    Is this the worst they can do? Not if some of the mindless violence alluded to in this series is anything to go on.

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